pie crust 101
To begin, I want to make a note about the zillions of pie dough recipes out there: I barely buy it. Not the value of a recipe, mind you, but that new ones will ever come to pass. At their very base, they’re all just some type of solid fat (butter, shortening or lard) cut with powdery ingredients (flour, sometimes salt and sugar) bound with a liquid (usually water, but some folks get creative with milk, cream, buttermilk or vodka), and I’m amused that every year, so many cooking publications feel a need to pronounce that By Golly, They’ve Got It! They’ve found the perfect pie dough. In my mind, it was never lost.
That said, Cooks Illustrated is really onto something grand this year, so thank you to all who pointed me in this recipe’s direction. That thing is vodka, my friends. Yes, I think they’re brilliant too. But really, vodka, because it is 80-proof, will mostly evaporate in the oven, meaning that your crust gets the liquid it needs but much of it will not stay. Worried about a boozy vibe to your pie? Vodka is, by definition, colorless and odorless, so once it’s baked, you’ll forget it was ever in there. Of course (aheeeeem) if you are the sort that likes to pick up small scraps of raw dough and eat them because, mm, butter is awesome, let’s just say that things can get a little messy and leave it at that. Really, it’s not always a bad thing.
So let’s get started shall we? As I noted yesterday, I am a fan of the humble pastry blender–it’s simple, lo-fi, and uses minimal dishes–so I’ll be using that today. However, these same steps could be taken with your food processor or Kitchen Aid, if you’re partial to them.
First, measure your flour. Measuring cups work just fine, but since I had a lot to measure, I weighed it, which makes my life much easier. You’ll need 2 1/2 cups* for one double-crust pie, plus one teaspoon of salt and two tablespoons of sugar. Whisk all of these dry ingredients together.
Now is the point where I suppose I should jump in on the Great Butter versus Shortening, but yawn, you can get that elsewhere. I tend to go the all-butter route but this year put my trust in the CI recipe, which calls for some shortening. Feel free to use all of one or the other, if that’s your preference, simply by swapping out the ingredient with the same volume of the alternative.
Dice your butter and shortening–cold from the fridge–into smaller bits with a knife, toss them into the dry ingredients bowl and start cutting away with your blender.
The first picture shows the dough after a few cuts with the blender, i.e. big chunks. The second picture shows it a minute later, and you can see the chunks getting smaller. In the third picture, you’ll see that the dough is beginning to align itself with the blades, becoming more of a solid mass–you’re almost there. Another minute later, it should resemble a coarse cornmeal. You’re almost done! Wasn’t that easy?
Next comes the moment you have all been waiting for: vodka. Add ¼ cup vodka (we keep ours in the freezer, like good Russians, so it’s always icy) and ¼ very cold water to this cornmeal-textured mixture and fold it all together with a rubber spatula. It should easily come together in a mass with a little stirring. This CI recipe is on the sticky side, to compensate for the vodka that will burn off.
Mound the dough into one pile, and divide it into two balls. If you are OCD, as I am, you might weigh the dough to make sure you are dividing it evenly, but this is not mandatory. Flatten the balls into discs, wrap them in plastic and chill them in the refrigerator for at least 45 minutes and up to two days. (If you want to store it longer, triple wrapping them and then sliding them into a freezer bag in the freezer is recommended.)
Aren’t you proud of yourself? You have made a pie dough! Pat yourself on the back and leave others to wonder how you got the floury handprint! The mysteries never cease…
At this point, you can prepare your pie filling, be it apples or pumpkin or something even awesomer that I hope you’ll share with me. Set it aside.
Once your dough is thoroughly chilled, and I mean thoroughly–my fridge is on the warm side and I didn’t feel that 45 minutes was sufficient. The dough should feel as firm as a cold stick of butter–it’s time to roll it out.
Rolling the dough out between two pieces of plastic is a great trick, as it keeps your counter clean and keeps you from having to flour and re-flour and, if you’re me, scrape and flour again because it keeps sticking anyway. Make sure you pull any folds out of the plastic every few rolls to ensure that the dough remains smooth.
To fit this in a standard 9.5-inch pie dish, you’re going to want roll it out to a 12-inch circle. I find that a ruler, or the side of the plastic wrap box which just happens to be 12 inches, is helpful to have around. If your dough has gotten soft or warmer in the time you have been rolling it out, I find it helpful to slide it onto the back of a tray and into the freezer for 10 minutes to get it firm again.
Carefully transfer your dough to the pie plate by peeling off the top piece of plastic, and rolling the dough around the rolling pin, leaving the bottom piece of plastic on the counter, and unrolling it into the pie plate, or by folding the dough gently into quarters and unfolding in the pan. Working around the circumference of the pie plate, ease dough the dough into the corners by gently lifting dough edges with one hand while pressing around pan bottom with other hand. If you’re making a single crust pie, crimp the edges decoratively with your fingers at even intervals and add the filling according to your recipe’s instructions. If you’re making a double-crust or latticed pie, leave dough that overhangs the lip of plate in place and refrigerate dough-lined pie plate, proceeding according to that recipe’s instructions, or, heck, mine.
And if you’re me, and decided at the very last minute to mess with you guys by using a tart pan instead and par-baking it, but not telling your what I actually put in it until tomorrow, you’ll do just that. Nya-nya! I can assure you, it was amazing.
One year ago: Jacked-Up Banana Bread and fiittingly, How to Make a Lattice-Top Pie
NaBloSlackerMo Yes, peeps, it was a late night. Did I mention I had a wee dinner party? And there was wine, so much of it? And it was late? And because a great time was had by all, I’m not sorry? Fine, a tiny bit. But I wouldn’t take it back.
Foolproof Pie Dough
Cooks Illustrated, November 2007
Makes enough for one 9-inch double-crust pie
2 1/2 cups (12 1/2 ounces) unbleached all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon table salt
2 tablespoons sugar
12 tablespoons (1 1/2 sticks) cold unsalted butter, cut into 1/4-inch slices
1/2 cup cold vegetable shortening, cut into 4 pieces
1/4 cup cold vodka
1/4 cup cold water
1. Process 1 1/2 cups flour, salt, and sugar in food processor until combined, about 2 one-second pulses. Add butter and shortening and process until homogeneous dough just starts to collect in uneven clumps, about 15 seconds (dough will resemble cottage cheese curds and there should be no uncoated flour). Scrape bowl with rubber spatula and redistribute dough evenly around processor blade. Add remaining cup flour and pulse until mixture is evenly distributed around bowl and mass of dough has been broken up, 4 to 6 quick pulses. Empty mixture into medium bowl.
2. Sprinkle vodka and water over mixture. With rubber spatula, use folding motion to mix, pressing down on dough until dough is slightly tacky and sticks together. Divide dough into two even balls and flatten each into 4-inch disk. Wrap each in plastic wrap and refrigerate at least 45 minutes or up to 2 days.
* Note: I was making a double recipe, because, well, I make a lot of pie and wanted a stash of dough, so don’t freak out if your dough is smaller than mine. It’s supposed to be.



















I have to admit, I was doubtful about this, but then I got to thinking that my Grandmother always added a teaspoon of vinegar to her pie dough, which helps tenderize it, and I can’t help but think vodka must have the same effect.
We keep the vodka in the freezer too, but mainly because no one here ever drinks it and it’s only there for random guests.
A friend of mine just mentioned this recipe the other day when I was saying I have never been able to make an edible pie crust. OK, so now I’ll have to try it.
Love your blog, have been lurking for a while and am finally stopping in to say “hi”.
Thanks for such a great recipe. I was just abut to prepare one myself and I’m most definitely tray some of your tips!
Sanja
I LOVE the vodka idea - I can see how that would make the crust easier to work with (more liquid at first) yet also so totally flaky and not squishy (like nasty commercial pie crusts) post-baking. I have to try this recipe!!
Also, I am a firm believer in the joys of the pastry blender. One of my very favorite kitchen tools.
I just cooked quinces down in syrup and I’m thinking that this sort of pie crust would be just the place for them.
hi deb! been reading your blog for a while (love it!) but have never posted… i’ve also been eying this vodka pie crust thing for a while - mildly weirded out, but trusting in cooks illustrated, who has never lead me astray. just wondering if you think i could sub this in on your beautiful cranberry caramel almond tart?
Hi Leslie — I am sure this will work great. Because it doesn’t have an egg, it might be slightly softer than a dessert shell, however I couldn’t help but notice that for the dessert I baked in the weighted one above, it shrunk a lot less than the dessert shell in the cranberry, caramel and almond tart recipe.
I have always been the worst at pie crust. When I was in high school, and we were living with my single dad, my 8 year old sister could do it, and still not me. I think it’s time to navigate away from the box crust and try again. Thanks.
thanks, deb! yes, i was definitely going for less shrinkage…
Simply brilliant…what a great reference guide! I know that passions flare about pie crust especially around this time of year. Thank you for the well-thought out, easily laid out post. I love the picture at the top…it seems vaguely dangerous. Like, are you IN or OUT with this pie crust thing!??
I battle with pie crusts… they either fall apart and barely get into the pan in one piece, or if you feel like it’s actually working (!!) it shrinks 3 1/2 sizes in the oven and burns. Whoops.
I have a feeling I’ll be making a pie this coming week… and I am definitely going to give this crust a try.
Thanks for the tips!
Beautiful!!! Vodka, who’d've thought?
Deb, thanks so much for passing this recipe on! I am a former subscriber to CI, but would’ve missed this one since I don’t subscribe any more.
It’s a bit silly that I don’t have a pastry blender, but I’m going to have to go out and get one soon to get pie-crust bakin’ for the holidays! :)
I just read that article in CI yesterday and was planning to try it for my Thanksgiving pies. Making pie crust gives me hives! This method sounded foolproof. I’m so glad that you beat me to it. Now, I will wait to see how it worked for you before I dive in. Thanks!
Vodka! Wow! I would have never thought. And I have to say that I am SO loving your daily posts!! ; )
I love all the step-by-step photos here. And it’s even more helpful for this post, as pie-crust making is not exactly intuitive (at least, not for me). I also saw this recipe from CI and have wanted to try it. Your post definitely got my juices going!
See, this is another post that belongs in a “how to” category! Great post - this is going to be really helpful next week.
I never thought I’d see the day where vodka is used in a pie crust. I’m going to tell my Russian in-laws.
I too struggle with crust–I have never really been successful until last night, when I made this crust with all butter (because I live in Norway, where the selection of psuedo-butters is enormous and indistinguishable, and I therefore pretend none of them exist) and used it in a pear tart tatin (can it be a tart tatin without apples? whatever. It was the best thing I have ever made). I even used lemon vodka (because it was all I had) and you can’t tell.
On another note, while this is the first time I have commented, Deb, I totally stalk your blog in all it’s awesomeness and have occasionally alarmed my office mates by drooling on the keyboard when looking at it.
oy pie crust… the 1 thing i cant ever EVER get right. Thats Moms department, and she too, use’s vinegar… I think I’ll give it a shot. Seems like a lot of liquid.. I recall Mom using just a smidge of water and a smidge of vinegar. Omg they will be so impressed when i ta daa a tasty pie!
I’ve been meaning to try this ever since I read about it in September. The foodies over at egullet are pretty enthused about it too. Maybe I can finally create a decent pie crust!
I completely forgot that I wanted to make this a while back. Now i will put it on my list of projects for Chained in the Kitchen Week 2007. Thanks!
One day I might actually get a hang of all the kitchen gadgets we’ve inherited. I’m one step closer, now that I know what that chopping-looking thing is in the back of the pantry: it’s a pastry blender! Slightly embarrassed about my ignorance, but whatever — I’ve learned something new today.
Fortunately, I’ve never understood what the fuss about pie-crusts is all about. Perhaps I’ve been lucky — or just not been brought up with the responsibility that comes with an old American pie.
Vodka! That’s a brilliant idea, I just need a filling idea now…
Thanks for the tips!
OMG. I just made this pie crust, and OMG. Flaky. Delicious. Yum.
i made this pie crust two weeks ago for a pie contest at work and it was amazing. i have never made a crust that was so easy and flaky!
That is fascinating - the vodka part that is.
I’m usually in the “there’s nothing new under the piecrust sun” and I stick to my standard formula, but vodka. Huh. May have to try that.
Honestly, I subscribe to a veritable assload of cooking magazines, but Cooks Illustrated is the only one that I can rely on for new takes on basic recipes that are, by and large, perfect. They do not lie.
Well, except for that one time, about a brownie recipe, where they put brownies in two camps — too cakey and too fudgy. Which, too fudgy? THERE IS NO SUCH THING. The Goldilocks touch they so effortlessly apply to most of their recipes was so grotesquely unnecessary in that case.
But dude, in that same issue, they improved basic potato salad enough to make all of my coworkers (and me) swoon at a recent potluck (yes, a potluck. Ah, newspapers don’t pay that well, so if we want to party, we must potluck it. Because we’re classy.)
Just yesterday I was making a pie crust (using my pastry blender), wondering why everyone seems to need to use a food processor! So I was very pleased to see your post today, and I’m looking forward to trying out the recipe.
OCD because you weigh your dough? I guess I’m OCD too, as I’ve always done that!
And your baking beads look suspiciously like Israeli couscous…
Hi Deb! Thanks so much for posting this! I’ve tried many pie dough recipes many, many times and after so many failures, I feel like such a loser in the grocery check out line with my *sigh* store-bought pie crust. My days of embarrassment are over! Thanks!
So, um, say you have only really terrible vodka, the kind that does actually taste like something, like rubbing alcohol or nail polish remover. Do you suppose this will ruin the party entirely, or will the industrial-solvent bouquet evaporate in baking? I have half a bottle of this crap left, and I’m all out of stickers to remove.
(And - anybody tried other liquors yet? Bourbon-crust sweet potato pie?)
Hannah — I wouldn’t worry about using cheap stuff. Vodka is vodka. In your martini, you might want something fancier, but for baking? I can’t even imagine using Grey Goose (plus, the Russians only like the Absolut anyway) for the purposes of evaporating it.
I just made my first homemade crust this weekend! (http://sugarlaw.blogspot.com/2007/11/classic-chocolate-tart.html) It was before I read this entry, unfortunately, so I didn’t have the vodka tip! However, I’m definitely making another on Wednesday (pumpkin pie!!!), so I will try it out for sure!
BTW, I cannot imagine writing a blog entry post-dinner-party. I’m usually too full/tipsy/exhausted to even think about food for at least 12 hours. :-)
just wanted to thank you for the beautiful apple tart recipe from a few (many?) days ago. i used it tonight for some friends, wanted to do a test run before thanksgiving, and it was delicious! and impressive! and easy! your blog is a lot of fun to read and your enthusiasm is contagious. many thanks.
Well, the only vodkas I have in the house are infused - a vanilla and a citrus. I wonder if the flavors would come through in pie? I am thinking the citrus would not be unwelcome in a berry or apple pie, but I think I will use the vanilla one in my pumpkin pie on Thursday. Glad you tried this recipe and posted your success! CI has never, ever led me astray!
I tried this last night and I think I managed to screw it up. (Ha, give me anything labeled “foolproof”…)
It never got to the cornmeal-looking stage- it actually all came together like dough before I added the liquid. After I added the liquid it got VERY sticky. Did I overwork it with the pastry blender? Might it still be okay (It’s in the fridge)? Perhaps the hippie shortening I used was not a good idea?
Thanks so much! I can’t wait to try the cranberry caramel almond tart!
We’ve used alcohol–usually vodka, sometimes gin or brandy for years in pastry with great success. I wouldn’t use anything low alcohol or with excess sugar. I fondly remember using a pear eau-de-vie…hmnmm where is that bottle? Also–for the pastry cutter/cuisinart/kitchenaid-less, use very cold butter, coarsest grater set in bowl with flour (plus salt,sugar, etc.) works beautifully. Just remember to dash flour on the growing mound to prevent clumping. If it seems too warm, set in freezer to firm up. Crumble with fingers to the “cornmeal” stage, then proceed as above with adding the, ahem, booze.
Do you have/know of a gluten-free alternative pie crust that comes out as flaky-tasty good as this one? I have a friend who is gluten-free for health reasons and is just heartbroken that she has to avoid pie for Thanksgiving. Thanks in advance!
Hi Amaranta — Shauna at Gluten-Free Girl has a great-looking on up on her site. I’d definitely start there.
I just rolled out the dough and the crust is chilling in its pan in the fridge waiting to be par-baked, as I write. (for coconut custard pie). I know I should wait until it’s finished before evaluating….but, here goes. First of all, I used the food processor method as specified in the original recipe–not by hand as you did–and I think I may have overprocessed it. The dough was very soft and wet. I had it in the fridge about an hour in a half and it was still very wet and sticky when I rolled it. I had to do a lot of patching and shoring up. I plan on baking it in a little while. I don’t have high hopes.
I am trying this as I type and have had the same experience as Janet and Lana. My dough is dripping with liquid. It was all coming together before the liquid. I am really bummed. Is there something missing??
Fairly new to your blog, first time commenter (Hi.)
Let me preface this by saying that, while I am a fairly decent baker - cookies, cakes, muffins, that sort of thing - pie crust scares the ever-loving crap out of me. Mostly because of the small margin for error, and also I have nightmarish memories of my mother attempting to make pie crust, only to end up swearing and screaming at a shapeless lump of dough on our kitchen counter. (Her pumpkin pie still kicks butt, though.) So this was only my second attempt at a homemade crust.
I halved the recipe, since I made just one pecan pie. I, too, used my pastry blender, mostly out of laziness (why get the food processor dirty for one pie crust?). I was prepared for the stickiness of the dough, having read the comments on this post ahead of time, I made sure I had plenty of flour next to me when I rolled it out. I do think I rolled it a little thin - I had a lot of dough left over, which I of course made into the same pie dough/cookie treats my mom used to make when I was a kid (Spread with a little butter, sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon, bake away). I also did not leave enough room on the edges — it shrank down on me a little…this, obviously, is my own damn fault, and I’m not interested in winning a pie beauty contest, I’m more interested in how it tastes….and I like it. Tasty, flaky, buttery-I think it’ll be a hit! Thanks for the recipe, it looks like a keeper.
OK, I don’t know WHAT the hell happened, but I’m having the opposite experience to what others have noted. I used the food processor, and I have a dough that is dry & crumbly and will not come together. I stuck it in the fridge in hopes of being able to get advice and salvage it later, but right now it is a powdery mess. Can 1/4 cup vodka and 1/4 cup water really be enough? I used all butter, that couldn’t be the problem, could it? Am I just not mixing it aggressively enough? What the hell? Any advice appreciated.
OK, I’ve gone back and double-checked my measuring cups - I didn’t accidentally use too much flour or only 1/8 cup water or anything obvious like that. I used two sticks butter, the full 16 oz.
The dough is as dry as it was earlier (no magical refrigerator cure). Any thoughts?!?
Ann. Two sticks of butter = 8 oz! Not 16 oz! Double check the recipe.
Yay! I stuck with it and it was most delicious!! Just much wetter than I am used to. The maple nutmeg cream pie was a big hit. Thanks.
What a great recipe! Had no problem with it. I made mine night before and let chill in fridge overnight. Very easy to roll out next day. (used sprinkle of flour during rolling out process) Only things I did different was use salted butter (I bought salted in error, but cut down on added salt called in recipe). I made sure all butter, shortening and liquids were very chilled (in freezer for 30 min or so) before adding. I also didn’t use any food processors or mixers. Just old fashioned knives and later a hand held pastry blender. Wonder what others who didnt have success did wrong. This is pretty much fool proof. I encourage others to try again.
Thanks for posting this recipe!
Although my wife is the real genius in the kitchen, pies have happily been in my column for awhile. At thanksgiving, I make a pumpkin-pecan-rum pie every year. This year I substituted vodka for water in my normal recipe and let me say the vodka works amazingly well. I use shortening so the crust is usually pretty flaky, but this year it was even more so. Neighbors threw a Turkey 2.0 last night so we tried it again with the same result. Great tip.
definitely on my to-do list.
Drat. We tried the recipe for our pumpkin pies:The dough rolled out great but the crust shrunk up quite a bit during baking and had a cardboard texture.
This was my very first time making my own pie crust - I had absolutely no problem with it, it turned out perfectly (I used my Kitchen-Aid). I even had most of my guests telling me how GREAT the crust was on my delicious Nutmeg Maple Cream tart (one person even came in my kitchen to tell me that it was the best dessert he’d ever had). So, don’t know what could’ve happened to the others, but I can say that I’ve always been terrified to bake my own piecrust and was so excited that it turned out great! I have another one in my fridge that I can’t wait to fill!
But I would like to know exactly what the vodka is supposed to do instead of water.
I suspect that the problem for those with very wet or very dry dough has to do with how they measure the flour. If a “cup” of flour is 4oz. you will have a very wet dough. If a “cup” of flour is over 5-1/2 oz. you will have a very dry dough. If those who had problems try again, this time weighing your flour, I think you will have more success. CI uses a 5oz. weight for a cup of flour in this recipe. BTW, a simple, inexpensive postal scale will work fine for this type of kitchen work. Good Luck.
I couldn’t find the Pilsbury roll-out pie crust at the grocery store this year and so turned to your vodka recipe, and boy am I glad I did! I made a pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving and the crust turned out perfectly. My sister, who doesn’t even like crust (she usually scoops out the filling in her slice), loved it, too. I’ll be coming back to this recipe at Christmas. I say to store-bought crust: Never again!
urg. ‘foolish pie dough’ is what i ended up calling this when it was done - ‘foolish’ mostly referring to me for trying something new the night before Thanksgiving.
i was the victim of embarrassing pie crust shrinkage. yes, it probably happens to all bakers at one time or another, but i swear it’s never happened to me before! i know, that’s what they all say…
I made vodka crust three times so far
It is much easier to work with the dough.
My results and pix are here
Do you know of any recipes that don’t require vodka? (being underage has its downfalls) They don’t have to be quite as foolproof…
Thanks a lot Deb!
-Cat.
ps. you’ve inspired me to make a food blog.
I know what you said about flavored vodkas, but I had the seemingly brilliant idea to use the Absolut New Orleans mango black pepper vodka with a sweet mango pie filling, what do you think?
HI this one is interesting
The best pie crust I’ve ever made. Hands down. Tender, flaky, flavorful–just fantastic!!