peter reinhart’s bagels
Oh, except that last one. Because you see, there is one thing that bothers me about bagels is that they’re too big. There’s just no reason to eat 7 ounces of bread for breakfast. I end up glutted and then hungry three hours later. Yes, yes, yes, I know, just eat half of one, and while that’s a bright-minded suggestion, there is also the fact that Peter Reinhart’s bagel recipe has been calling my name since I bought the book last winter, which just about brings us to last Friday.
I followed the recipe to the letter, beginning the process on Friday night and finishing it on Saturday, yet although the bagels were gorgeous and smelled wonderful, I was a bit disappointed. They were so chewy, crispy and tough on the outside and soft on the inside and a bit unlike the bagels I was used to. And this is where SantaDad steps in, who sent me this email on Sunday, after trying one of my bagels the night before.
The memories are fuzzy, but it was back in the mid ’40’s and early 50’s. We (my Dad and I) used to go to the local bakery on Sunday mornings for bagels and Jewish rye/corn bread. It was right around the corner … the first of what would ultimately be a chain: Zaro’s. In fact, Phil Zaro, one of the two brothers that owned the bakery was our upstairs neighbor in our apartment building.
I always wondered why we couldn’t get bagels during the week. My father explained that there was only one bagel bakery in NY (probably the nation). It was located on an island in the East River. I imagine it was the island where the Queensborough Bridge crosses. Anyway, the bakery only made bagels on Saturday nights after Shabbat. The local retail bakeries would go to the bagel “factory” early on Sunday mornings and pick up their weekly orders.
There was real consistency in bagels then … no surprise since they all came from the same place. There were only two kinds of bagels, plain and egg. None of this cranberry, raisin, chocolate chip stuff. The bagels were more chewy than bagels today (which are very bready.) They were sort of crisp on the outside, and soft but chewy on the inside. More like an intermediate between today’s bagels and bialys. Bialys then were like rubber. The bialys sold today are more like what we then called “onion rolls.”
Then, sometime in the 50’s people started opening bagel shops and bagels became available 365 days a year. ….and the decline started. I imagine it was like the proliferation of pizza joints. Everyone thought they knew how to make bagels (pizza) and no one had the memory of what they really were like originally. One who was old enough, would probably say that bagels from THE East River bagel bakery had no resemblance to the bagels in eastern Europe where they probably originated. (An aside: I think “bialys” are named after the town Bialistok (sp?) in Poland.)
Since Phil Zaro was about 25 years older than I am, it is likely that his stores are now run by his children or grandchildren. He didn’t have children back then as well as I can remember, so his children would also be about 10 years younger than I am. If this is true, it’s possible that the memory of what bagels were was lost in that generation … a reason why Zaro’s bagels today are nothing like the East River bagels of yesterday.
I do remember having bagels in Israel on one of my trips, but they were nothing like the bagels in 1940’s NYC. The Israeli bagels were large and bready … good, but just not bagels.
Having said all this, I just want you to know that your bagels last night were the closest thing I have ever had to the original bagels of my childhood. It’s a good thing that they are so much work to make, since otherwise they could easily be the undoing of my Atkins program.
GOOD BAGELS!!!!
And that, my friends, is the final word.
Peter Reinhart’s Bagels
Adpated from The Bread Baker’s Apprentice
Hoo boy, there are a lot of notes for this one, so you might want to skim ahead to the end first. Otherwise, these are utterly glorious as-is, chewy with a crispy and tough exterior and a soft, flavorful interior. I have it on good authority that these are as good as, if not better, than the Old School variety.
Yield: 12 extremely large, 16 regularly large or 24 miniature bagels
Sponge
1 teaspoon instant yeast
4 cups unbleached high-gluten or bread flour (see note below)
2 1/2 cups water, room temperature
Dough
1/2 teaspoon instant yeast
3 3/4 cups unbleached high-gluten or bread flour
2 3/4 teaspoons salt
2 teaspoons malt powder or 1 tablespoon dark or light malt syrup, honey, or brown sugar (see note below)
To Finish
1 tablespoon baking soda
Cornmeal or semolina flour for dusting
Sesame seeds, poppy seeds, kosher salt, rehydrated dried minced garlic or onions (Deb note: this was what I chose, and found the taste very authentic), or chopped onions that have been tossed in oil (optional)
1. Day one: To make the sponge, stir the yeast into the flour in a 4-quart mixing bowl. Add the water, whisking or stirring only until it forms a smooth, sticky batter (like pancake batter). Cover the bowl with plastic wrap and leave at room temperature for approximately 2 hours, or until the mixture becomes very foamy and bubbly. It should swell to nearly double in size and collapse when the bowl is tapped on the countertop.
2. To make the dough, in the same mixing bowl (or in the bowl of an electric mixer), add the additional yeast to the sponge and stir. Then add 3 cups of the flour and all of the salt and malt. Stir (or mix on low speed with the dough hook) until the ingredients for a ball, slowly working in the remaining 3/4 cup flour to stiffen the dough.
3. Transfer the dough to the counter and knead for at least 10 minutes (or for 6 minutes by machine). The dough should be firm, stiffer than French bread dough, but still pliable and smooth. There should be no raw flour – all ingredients should be hydrated. The dough should pass the windowpane test and register 77 to 71 degrees F. If the dough seems to dry and rips, add a few drops of water and continue kneading. If the dough seems tacky or sticky, add more flour to achieve the stiffness required. The kneaded dough should feel satiny and pliable but not be tacky.
4. Immediately divide the dough into 4 1/2 ounce pieces for standard bagels, or smaller if desired (Deb note: I used 2.25 ounce pieces, and yes, I weighed them because I wanted them to bake evenly). Form the pieces into rolls.
5. Cover the rolls with a damp towel and allow them to rest for approximately 20 minutes.
6. Line 2 sheet pans with baking parchment and mist lightly with spray oil. Proceed with one of the following shaping methods:
Method 1: Poke a hole in a ball of bagel dough and gently rotate your thumb around the inside of the hole to widen it to approximately 2 1/2 inches in diameter (half of this for a mini-bagel). The dough should be as evenly stretched as possible (try to avoid thick and thin spots.)
Method 2: Roll out the dough into an 8-inch long rope. (This may require rolling part of the way and resting if the pieces are too elastic and snap back, in which case, allow them to rest for 3 minutes and then extend them again to bring to full length. Wrap the dough around the palm and back of your hand, between the thumb and forefinger, overlapping the ends by several inches. Press the overlapping ends on the counter with the palm of your hand, rocking back and forth to seal.
7. Place each of the shaped pieces 2 inches apart on the pans (Deb note: I got away with 1-inch space for the minis). Mist the bagels very lightly with the spray oil and slip each pan into a food-grade plastic bag, or cover loosely with plastic wrap. Let the pans sit at room temperature for about 20 minutes.
8. Check to see if the bagels are ready to be retarded in the refrigerator by using the “float test”. Fill a small bowl with cool or room-temperature water. The bagels are ready to be retarded when they float within 10 seconds of being dropped into the water. Take one bagel and test it. If it floats, immediately return the tester bagel to the pan, pat it dry, cover the pan, and place it in the refrigerator overnight (it can stay in the refrigerator for up to 2 days). If the bagel does not float. Return it to the pan and continue to proof the dough at room temperature, checking back every 10 to 20 minutes or so until a tester floats. The time needed to accomplish the float will vary, depending on the ambient temperature and the stiffness of the dough.
9. The following day (or when you are ready to bake the bagels), preheat the oven to 500 degrees F with the two racks set in the middle of the oven. Bring a large pot of water to a boil (the wider the pot the better), and add the baking soda (and optionally, a few tablespoons of barley syrup, see Note at the end). Have a slotted spoon or skimmer nearby.
10. Remove the bagels from the refrigerator and gently drop them into the water, boiling only as many as comfortably fit (they should float within 10 seconds). After 1 minutes flip them over rand boil for another minute. If you like very chewy bagels, you can extend the boiling to 2 minutes per side (Deb note: I used the 2 minute option). While the bagels are boiling, sprinkle the same parchment-lined sheet pans with cornmeal or semolina flour. (If you decide to replace the paper, be sure to spray the new paper lightly with spray oil to prevent the bagels from sticking to the surface.) If you want to top (see note below) the bagels, do so as soon as they come out of the water. You can use any of the suggestions in the ingredients list or a combination.
11. When all the bagels have been boiled, place the pans on the 2 middle shelves in the oven. Bake for approximately 5 minutes, then rotate the pans, switching shelves and giving the pans a 180-degree rotation. (If you are baking only 1 pan, keep it on the center shelf but still rotate 180 degrees.) After the rotation, lower the oven setting to 450 degrees F and continue baking for about 5 minutes, or until the bagels turn light golden brown. You may bake them darker if you prefer. (Deb note: I actually baked them quite a bit longer, often almost five extra minutes. I judge by color, not internal temperature, in this case. I did not lower the oven temperature because I had multiple batches to bake.)
12. Remove the pans from the oven and let the bagels cool on a rack for 15 minutes or longer before serving.
Cinnamon Raisin Bagels: For cinnamon raisin bagels, increase the yeast in the final dough to 1 teaspoon, and add 1 tablespoon of ground cinnamon and 5 tablespoons of granulated sugar to the final dough. Rinse 2 cups of loosely packed raisins with warm water to wash off surface sugar, acid, and natural wild yeast. Add the raisins during the final 2 minutes of mixing. Proceed as directed, but do not top the bagels with any garnishes. When they come out of the oven and are still hot, you can brush the tops with melted butter and dip them in cinnamon sugar to create a cinnamon-sugar crust, if desired.
Notes:
- In his introduction to bagels, Reinhart mentions two ingredients that are not exactly ordinary, but completely essential to the bagel texture and flavor. The first is barley malt powder or syrup, more for that typical bagel shop flavor than anything else, and something that was readily available at Whole Foods and a bunch of other stores. Sadly, I cannot tell you if this ingredient is as essential as he said because I woke up with a startle at 7 a.m. the next morning, “Oh my god I forgot to add the barley syrup!” Don’t you hate it when that happens? Later, I read a recipe that suggested you add the barley syrup to the boiling water bath, and I did so in my later batches, figuring it wouldn’t hurt to get the flavor in somewhere. I ended up feeling that these bagels had a slightly darker, and more stereotypically-bagel color than the earlier batches, so I am adding this as an optional step.
- The second is high gluten flour, a step above the extra gluten in bread flour. (Though he says regular bread flour will work in a jam, I’m used to getting top-notch bagels, and was convinced I’d be able to tell the difference.) This can be ordered online or available in a specialty store (though I couldn’t come up with one in NYC that had it). Or, you can beg your local bagel shop for some of theirs, and given that the other two options would take time and energy, I turned to our beloved Murray’s on 8th Avenue. They came through, and then some, and I am now the proud own of some ten pounds of super-high gluten flour, and a sinking feeling that I’ll be making bagels again or some very tough cookies (bah!) this winter. The crazy, it keeps coming.
- I had difficulties getting my seeds and onion bits to stick to the top of the bagels. Though the recipe does not call for an egg wash, I would definitely use one next time to get them to stick, after the boiling and before the baking.
- These pictures were taken with a film camera! Our camera had a mishap (we’ll call it) last Friday and was out for repair when I made these bagels. Instead, I used Alex’s old manual Canon Rebel, replete with my macro lens and our Speedlite flash. How cool is it that everything works together? On Saturday, my dad was kind enough to lend us his Rebel XTi until ours came out of the shop, which is supposed to be today. (Pictures taken with his camera can be seen in the previous post.) Hooray for SantaDad, and camera repair shops that work quickly!
- Although Alex may have been the cause of the camera’s injury, he deserves a hearty round of applause for typing this entire recipe for us. 1,999 words!












They look amazing — they make me (almost) aspire to cook. But mostly because I would be excited to garnish with a variety of savory sprinkle-type things. Or would that be considered bagel blasphemy?
oh my, am i drooling. I am such a bagel snob type–the bready ones just dont do it for me. I’ve tried to make them at home before but with dismal results–I’ll have to try this recipe–it sounds like you had great results!!
What a great compliment from your Dad! You rock Deb.
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The first photo of the bagels look so inviting, now I wonder what real bagels taste like. But making them at home are just a bit too tedious though.
I love good bagels. Sometimes the bigger ones are disappointing because of size, inconsistency, toughness, etc. I love the fact that yours are smaller and look delish!
Also, THANK YOU ALEX!
OMG I love your father and his story.
That’s exactly why I don’t bake bread at home often…they are often not what I’m used to….I’m used to a softer bread…while the one I bake at home comes out crusty and chewy…*sigh*
I’ll leave it to the professionals….and eat all the preservatives thrown my way….*sigh*
Yum! I could tear into one of those right now, maybe with some cream cheese. My husband Quinn makes wonderful bagels. Now that I mention it, he hasn’t made any in ages. I’ll have to give him a gentle reminder….
Oh, we made these bagels at one of our cooking club meetings. The hostess did all the prep and we just had to boil and bake them. They were amazing, probably my most favorite bagels outside of Murray’s.
Oh Murray’s, why can’t you have a storefront in southern ohio?
These look delicious — and sound like the famous Montreal-style bagels here in Canada. They’re known for being chewy and crisp on the outside, soft in the middle.
Between your photos and your father’s lovely story (I walk by a Zaro’s every day in Grand Central but have never been a customer–perhaps I’ll get a bagel from them tomorrow), I’m sold! BTW, don’t even think about making cookies with that flour–they’ll be awful. Just make more bread.
Wow, this is such a great post, in so many ways! The pictures are mouth watering, all the notes from having tried out this recipe for us and a post from SantaDad. Well, I guess it’s true the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, your dad sure can tell a story! Now if I could just find me some high gluten flour, I’d be all set!
Great post, wonderful recipe. So glad I stumbled on your blog.
Thanks for sharing…Di
What an amazing letter that is! Truly an inspiration for any cook or baker.
When I made bagels a little while ago, I was under-whelmed by my full size versions, they just didn’t live up to Murrays. However, I also made minis, and I loved those, not only were they the perfect portion, but they had just the right flavor and texture.
Thankfully, mine were not a multi-day project, so kudos to your determination!
I am so impressed right now right now.
I made this recipe just last week. The bagels deflated a bit during boiling (maybe they over-proofed in the fridge?), but they were still really tasty. Not as pretty as yours though. Homemade bagels are one of those things that are worth the effort!
I am in awe! Anything yeasty scares me and your bagels look fantastic. You have inspired me to give it a go!
Thank you! =)
Famous Montreal Bagels… there is nothing to compare to those – or maybe your version, as one mentioned. just walking into the Fairmounts Bagels, night or day, where nothing seems to have changed in 50 years. the smell… and you can see how there made, just there, it’s such a small shop. and then just “trying” one, still warm, out of the paper bag. so chewy and just aahh… if ever you need one good reason to visit Montreal, let it be this one (ask for a dozen warm bagels with sesame seeds).
I agree with Anna and Allana – Montréal bagels are the best!I am biased because I live here I guess and lucky because I can get some easily and often. Grocery store bagels are donut shaped bread – not bagels! My favorite place is St-Viateur’s bagelshop on St-Viateur street. They are open 24 hours so you can always get a fresh warm bagel. The smell is divine! They supply a lot of restaurants with their bagels – including Beauty’s which is the best breakfast place in Montreal. Their Beauty’s special – bagel and lox with the thickest cream cheese ever- is to die for!
My only attempt at bagels resulted in tough. I couldn’t figure out what I’d done, so I never tried again. Maybe I’ll have to go searching for that malt stuff again. . . .
I’ve heard of–but never tried– something called ‘QuickShine’ that is supposed to help with keeping the topping on. (My mother gets the King Arthur Flour catalog.)
I love to make bread, so I’m kind of envious of all that flour you’ve got. . . .
That is such a sweet story.
Looks really good.
Forgive my ignorance (I’m not terribly versed in baking/breads), but what is the “windowpane test” (in step 3)?
I loved this bagel post! Every year, we spend Christmas with friends. We have a Yankee Swap, where everyone brings a gift (under $25). We pick numbers and then pick gifts in order. You have the choice of taking someone else’s already-opened gift or picking a new one. Each year, my brother brings a dozen bagels from NY. That bag of bagels is, by far, the most popular item, changing hands numerous times. There’s something about a soft, warm bagel with the topping of your choice!
BTW, I come to you by way of McGee raving about your red velvet cake, which I cannot wait to try myself!
How many mini bagels does that recipe make? I wonder wehre I can find high gluten flour….there aren’t many bagel shops in DC (not real ones anyway).
Molly — Nope. I think garnishes on bagels are pretty old-school. I’m an Everything Bagel girl, myself.
Jennifer — Ooh, is the post in your archives? I’d love to see!
Skeezix — That’s so cool! I want a cooking club. How fun would that be?
maddy — They do deflate in the boiling, but mine seemed to (mostly) spring back while baking. It could have been over-proofing… then again, Reinhart’s end-product pictures in the book looked a bit flatter than mine. I was actually happy to see mine come out perkier! (Don’t tell.)
Denet — Is this the stuff?
Mike — I realize that must be confusing, eh? You know, this recipe really had me torn about posting it because it’s so long and the processes in the book are so involved. I think anyone interested in serious bread-baking should buy it. That said, as uncomfortable as this Google feature makes me, you can see the page scanned over here. Otherwise, the temperature test is plenty adequate when determining if a dough has been kneaded enough.
lyra — It makes 12 full-sized and 24 minis. I made a 1.5 batch (terrible idea, btw, too big for my KitchenAid, baking pans and refrigerator) and yielded exactly 37 minis, and the last one was even tinier, just a leftover ounce or two. I’ll update the recipe now.
Lovely post. It is easy to understand the genesis of your talent for writing and passion for food.
I made my own bagels once before. And I remember that they were good, but not so good that they were worth the extra time and effort, when good enough one were available just about anywhere. But methinks it might be time for another go ’round.
The other thing that was a real pain in my bum the first time I made them is that the recipe I was working from had a major typo – the salt and sugar was switched!! I made two batches of dough that just wouldn’t rise to save my life before I realized I was killing with salt instead of feeding it with sugar!
This post is only making me hungrier… I should really just go to lunch now.
Your dad is too cute. I enjoy the detail of Peter Reinhart’s recipes — I have been coveting The Bread Baker’s Apprentice for a while now…
Thanks for trying this recipe for me, they all look totally cute and puffy. I was actually not too sure about it precisely because of how Reinhart describes them (very chewy and all). Not having had a real bagel experience before, I wasn´t too enthusiastic when I made them a couple of months ago using another recipe precisely because they were a bit too chewy for me.
I think I´ll just wait until I go to NYC in May to try different varieties and see which one I like the most (oh and BTW, I´m hoping you can give me some tips later on when the trip approaches).
With such a success, you may want to think twice about your other off-limits foods! These look glorious. Want to tackle sausage and I’ll take sushi?
Your bagels look and sound very much like the the heavenly offerings in my neighborhood- Scratch Baking Co. in South Portland, Me.
Crispy crust and light chewy interior, always second on the grocery list (after lobsters) when my city pals come to visit.
Damn ! I wanted to see a paint shop thing done showing how to make the rope and roll them !! Cmon Deb, you know you wanna!
I hear you on old school bagels… my Great Grandpa Abe and Gramma Ida were bagel makers in LA.. They started it in the 20’s and did it till like the mid 70’s.. As k00ky as this sounds… i LOVED them frozen… i know, weird.
Im gonna have to try this.. there are NO bagel places around here and the grocery store kind is just bread… blah. Unless youd like to send me some… that would be swell and well, a lot easier for me. Im impatient and as much as i hate to admit it, my attention span is lacking… (why i have a cupcake shop now and decided to ditch the CPA job [long story, but kinda amusing])
As always, love the site, love the writing..and thanks for the 5 or so pounds Ive put on. (it was the lemon pound cake’s fault)
so how much would it cost to hire you out? :) i’m only in CT but grew up on Long Island and I have yet to find a decent bagel anywhere in the state that compares to what i grew up on (i was dubbed the “bagel queen” as a kid and the nickname still stands today). these look absolutely fantastic and as described, they sound exactly like how i love my bagels. nice job and keep the mouth-watering posts coming!
WOW the pictures are fantastic and my mouth is watering for 1!
I want some of those bagels. Beautiful pictures as always.
By the way, I wanted to say thank you for telling me to buy my 50mm macro lens. It’s simply the best investment EVER! I use it all the time now. :)
Best,
Bee at Rasa Malaysia
Wow, I haven’t made bagels in AGES, but I’m feeling inspired! I have the same issue as you do about the size – they’re just too darn big and bready, far too much for one sitting, so I usually just pass on them. Your bagels look perfect!
What an amazing compliment from Dad! I’m tempted to try this out but also a little scared.
These look delicious! I recently tried making baked donuts for the first time, and that of course led to an intense desire to try bagels next. I’m looking forward to trying your recipe!
This look delicious! I agree — bagels these days are toooo big. I grew up in the Philly ‘burbs, and there was one place in my neighborhood that got the size — and texture — just right. But alas, I now live in DC and the one decent bagel joint near my apartment (and quite possibly the entire city…) is closing in January. I just might need to give this recipe a try!
Aw what an incredibly nice letter! Interesting to know that about bagels. Now I want to try this kind. Your bagels look like they turned out beautifully. But personally I have no problem with larger bagels, though yes I agree that you eat one and are full the hungry before your next meal.
Being too impatient to search for high-gluten flour or to wait to have some shipped, I usually fortify all-purpose flour with vital wheat gluten. I add about 1 tablespoon wheat gluten to a cup of flour. All purpose flour is usually around 10-11% protein, bread flour is about 12% protein and high gluten flour is about 14% protein. While there are subtle differences, I have had really good results using vital wheat gluten and all purpose flour as a substitute for high gluten flour.
my boyfriend works there! (the one on 6th though not in Chelsea) I love their bagels!
Baking soda, not potash?
Oh, I just wanted to add about that high-gluten flour: usually we don’t like it in sweets like cookies and cakes, for the obvious reasons. However, high-gluten flour can also add a desired chewiness to cookies. Both Alton Brown and Jacques Torres use high-gluten/bread flour in their chocolate chip cookies to get the right chewey effect. Just in case anyone has excess high-gluten flour sitting around…
I love this post! I made bagels once–when I was living in Japan, snowed in on a February weekend, and terribly homesick. I boiled them one by one (tiny Japanese soup pots) and baked them in a toaster oven (two at a time) and the whole process took two days. I don’t know how great they really were, but at the time I thought they were the best thing I had ever tasted because they had the flavor of home. Perhaps SantaDad knows what I’m talking about (and on a related note, how cute it your father? I’ve loved his occasional comments but this takes the cake–or the bagel. You are both awfully charming).
This is such a delight to read. Kiss your dad for me – if that’s not overly familiar – and tell him that I, too, missed REAL bagels until I found this same recipe. Now I bake my own all the time and am very happy indeed.
Hm, must give this a try when I have a weekend free. I usually use Nigella’s recipe. It’s passable in taste and texture, but my bagels end up looking like donuts with acne. Is instant yeast the dry kind?
Aww that’s such a sweet email! I’ve never had bagels so I don’t really know but bready and chewy sounds good =) Talking about reminiscing, the first picture does have a little vintage look to it =p
What beautiful bagels! My dad worked in the city and we lived in CT and grew up with great bagels. Now I live in Portland OR where the bagels, as Calvin Trillin’s daughter would say, are just round bread. When my folks come to visit they fill out their suitcases with bagels which I slice and freeze, but they still go too quickly. I am going to the market TODAY to get the super high gluten flour (or the best I can find) and the barley syrup and we’ll see if we can’t have bagels on the table tomorrow, just like an old time Sunday breakfast in CT; bagels, cream cheese, lox, red onion and capers. If we do, it is thanks to you!
(in affected Brooklyn accent) This is what I’m talkin bout! I love these pictures and what a great story about your Dad. I wish I had the type of kitchen / oven set-up to try to make these. I can almost taste these smothered with Apple Butter (yes, Apple Butter).
I have, most likely, never eaten a real bagel. I wouldn’t even know what it tastes like! I’ll have to give the real stuff a try sometime. This recipe looks great, but alas I have no time.
I’m sold. Bagels have been on my list for awhile, and after your dad’s response, this will be the recipe. Lovely post!
Those look so yummy, and I was thinking how really great your photos look and wondering about your technique. Film!
why have i looked up bagel recipes several times (since moving from new york to portland, or), printed them out, solicited advice, planned to do it, and yet never followed through until i saw your pictorial? because of the easy step-by-step? enticing end product photos? endearing hand-holding throughout? dunno, but my rolls of dough are resting on the counter right now. i made faux high-gluten flour by throwing some gluten into bread flour, so if anything goes wrong i’ll blame that, not you. come to portland and be my baking buddy.
I fell into the trap of NOT reading the labels on the Bagel bag…and somehow thought that Bagel (normal size) was only 3 points in Weight Watchers. To my complete surprise, after the spouse said “Hey, these taste so good they must be bad for you, how many points are in them?” and after a race for the points calculator- did I realize that they were indeed 6 points! Disaster week!
Your bagels look deadly, although, I’m the type of person that wants the cooking done in the ‘right now’ moment and not over a 24 hour period. I’ll stick to my bread machine maker, lol.
Pictures look deadly tasty too!
well, I did it, and they came out great! I didn’t get started until 9:30pm so I was up a bit late but everything was so easy it was no problem. I used King Arthur Bread Flour (no super high gluten at the store) and Aunt Patty’s Barley Malt syrup and they floated instantly after 20 minutes of resting. I boiled and baked them this morning with my 3 year old twins, who applied a nice thick coating of seeds and kosher salt to everything (stuck very well, maybe the barley malt syrup made them stickier?). Took 15 minutes to bake to brown, after 10 minutes still pale around the edges. Chewy outside but not tough, chewy and just right inside. The barley malt is a sweetener, making them without it would be like leaving the sugar out of bread dough, perhaps that had an effect on the texture of your bagels? Thanks so much for posting the recipe and photos, was a breeze and so satisfying. I will never eat another puffy west coast bagel again!
Your bagels look absolutely perfect!
I make bagels for my family regularly, but I cheat. I use my bread machine to make the dough for me. I’ve seen quite a few bagel recipes that call for barley malt syrup, where I just use a few tbs of sugar. What does the malt syrup do that the sugar doesn’t?
God, I love a good bagel and unfortunately, in Singapore, no one makes anything close too authentic. Frozen ones don’t cut it either. KUDOS on making these. They sound fab. I am going to have to follow in your footsteps one day soon and make a batch of these. Thanks for posting the recipe. And GREAT story!
Omg, you have no idea how much I miss authentic bagels. I grew up in S. Florida (I was born in NY as were my parents) and we have wonderful bagel shops there. I bought everything for this recipe last year( except the High gluton flour) but have yet to make them. I’m going to beg the bagel shop in Hallandale Beach, Fl for some flour when we’re down in December.
I’ve never much liked the bagels you get at everyday bakeries, mainly because I think they’re too bready. Sounds like I should try these!
beautiful! i agree, bagels that you get in bagel shops are just TOO big. i usually just eat half and then feel wasteful about leaving the other half behind.
how big are the ones u made? didnt notice a picture comparing them in size to something…
now im tempted to make them too. (but i think im too lazy to go thru the process) heehee…
these photos are so gorgeous that I can’t even begin to comment on the recipe. Wow, what beautiful shots!! I’m drooling
What gorgeous bagels! I totally sent this post to my parents, both native New Yorkers who greatly appreciated the letter from your Dad – adorable! I also love that he mentioned the infamous “cornbread” which my Dad and Grandfather both remember fondly from back in the day. Great post! Such beautiful pictures AND writing!
Erin, yes the “cornbread” was amazing. I’m always reluctant to use that name today because of the obvious potential for confusion. For those who have never had cornbread, my memories of it are as such:
It was always round … and very large. In fact so large, that we usually bought a half … the bakeries did that then. They would cut it in half and sell halves. Why they didn’t just make them smaller, I’ll never know. Maybe people objected to too much crust. You see, the inside of the cornbread was very moist and heavy and a little more chewy than a typical rye bread.
It was in fact a rye bread and usually garnished with caraway seeds. I think, perhaps it had a bit of a sour dough flavor unlike rye bread, but nothing as potent as a San Francisco sour dough bread.
I defintely miss it. It was as much a Sunday morning staple as the bagels.
Maybe Deb will take off on this and do a Bronx Sunday Morning Breakfast, complete with the bagels, cornbread, and who can forget the magnificent sponge and honey cakes.
After great success with the rustic white bread I will be definitely giving those a try, because I cannot find bagels in Greece. And if a New Yorker can actually bother to make bagels, well, I am sure that they are really good ones!
You know there’s a whole (good) book about bialys? Mimi Sheraton’s _The Bialy Eaters_. If I remember correctly, she concludes that the only authentic bialys in the world are made at Kossar’s in New York; with the virtual extermination of Poland’s Jews there’s no one in Bialystok who knows how to make them, although people remember them from the old days.
SantaDad, you can call that bread “corn rye” and then people won’t expect crumbly yellow squares. A friend was saying just the other day that she can’t find it in New York any more, she imports it from Albuquerque. I will have to investigate.
I read the Bialy Eaters, actually, and it was fascinating, and we’ve checked out Kossar’s more than once on her recommendation. (It doesn’t help that its two down from the Doughnut Plant!) But it seems that Sheraton’s love affair with Kossar’s has ended, at least according to NYMag. She told them last month that their bialys aren’t what they used to be, now “barely with any onions and much too soft, bland and puffy, often with barely defined center wells.” Guess I should try to make them at home, eh?
“Guess I should try to make them at home, eh?”
Yes!
love your bagel post!
Dad of BCD Dad, a resident of Manchester, CT. has found a bakery in central Connecticut that is still making the old fashioned “corn” bread discussed by SantaDad in 65. One of the highlights of visits to CT is a trip to that bakery for a flashback to Lydig Ave in the Bronx.
Heather in no. 42 answered my questions!! I can get the vital wheat gluten in bulk at the natural foods store, but not high-gluten flour. I’m off to start my bagels.
I shouldn’t have doubted you’d be well up on the bialy literature. How discouraging about Kossar’s! I’ll definitely keep an eye out for corn rye, though, and let you know if I find any.
Thank you thank you thank you!! They were truly delicious… I’m afraid I will have to make a new batch every weekend from now on.
Overall my experience with the homemade bagels was exactly as you describe. I like the homemade version but I assumed it was simply impossible to replicate a commercial bagel. I’m heartened by your dad’s reassurance on crust and crumb.
I have made these with bread flour and also with King Arthur high gluten flour (I think it was the Sir Lancelot product). I found little difference between the two and have gone back to regular bread flour.
I’m very curious. What results did you get with the flour from the bagel shop?
you can order Sir Lancelot Flour from King Arthur Flour (www.KingArthurFlour.com)..they advertise that it’s the highest gluten flour on the market today (14.2% protein)….but it MUST be mixed by machine to properly break down the gluten…i use it in my bread machine to make bagel dough…My NY-born husband says they’re great…
stumbled across your website from the red velvet cake recommendation over at the amateur gourmet’s…. i grew up in new york and never appreciated any of the food until i moved away. bagels, pizza, and a few other ‘key’ items are so sorely lacking out here in montana!
anyway, i was re-introduced to new york bagels when i lived in charlottesville, VA. there is a place called bodo’s bagels, and rumour has it that the owner spent a lot of time in nyc, and ‘apprenticed’ at a bagel shop. to get the toppings on their bagels to stick, toppings were placed in a bowl, and immediately after boiling, the bagel was dropped into the bowl before turning right-side up onto the baking board.
Hey, I know I’m coming at this several months late, but I figured I’d get my 2 cents in anyway.
Not living in NYC and therefore without access to great bagels, I’ve been making my own for several years. After a whole lot of playing around, my favorite recipe is to follow Reinhart’s method, but CI’s list of ingredients: 22 ounces high-gluten flour, 2 teaspoons salt, 1 tablespoon barley malt syrup, 1.5 teaspoons yeast, 1.25 cups water. Basically, CI uses about 20% more flour (by weight). I also skip the baking soda in the poaching water and poach them for only 30 seconds. I really like the barley malt syrup – something about the subtle smell of it just screams bagel to me.
Oh, and I’ve never used high-gluten flour. Instead, I add substitute about 2 ounces of the flour for vital wheat gluten. I’ve also used about 10 ounces whole wheat flour without any detrimental effects on the bagels.
I am a super-fan of authenticity (and of the Smitten Kitchen) AND I love to try new things. That’s why your article on bagels fascinated me so much. This weekend I made a test batch of this recipe in preparation for an upcoming breakfast-themed supper club party. I felt a bit like I was flying blind…baking is not one of my strong points. I was also a little intimidated by the complexity of the recipe but found that its actually pretty simple once I got into it. And, best of all, the result was amazing. The batch I made yielded 13 regular-sized bagels and my little family ate them all in one day…for breakfast, lunch and dinner. My kids were literally begging for more. In my opinion these bagels are better than anything I’ve had in Nashville where I live, which I guess isn’t saying much as Nashville is not exactly known for its bagel shops.
Oh, and like commenter Bridget, I didn’t use high-gluten flour…couldn’t find it. Instead, as she did, I used added vital wheat gluten I found at Whole Foods to my bread flour.
I’ve made half a dozen batches, all of which were met by blank stares of incredulity from all tasters – “you made them from scratch?!!!”. Everyone who tastes them loves them and wonders why they can’t buy bagels like this. I made two small modifications to the recipe. 1. Egg wash and toppings (sesame & poppy seed) were applied to both sides of the bagels – with good result. 2. I used 3/4 cup vital wheat gluten (85% gluten content)and 7 cups of bread flour (12-13% gluten) to arrive at an average gluten of around 20%. They were really chewy (especially after cooling) and delicious. I also boiled them for two minutes per side. Hearty thanks for the recipe and the great story.
I actually made a DVD about making bagels. It was based largely on Peter Reinhart’s recipe with a few tweeks. I’ve sold about a hundred of them to people who want to see the process. In fact I made the thing because someone who I work with wanted the recipe. I figured it would be easier to just make a video. Well, that was clearly wrong. It took months to complete.
Bagels fresh from the oven are a treat that few get to have. I just found this website tonight and will check back often.
Thanks, it looks like a fun and informative site.
Thanks so much for putting this up! I grew up in Cleveland and then lived in NYC for several years, but now live in New Zealand, which has many yummy foods but alas, very few good bagels. I used this recipe and your helpful notes to make a batch at home and they’re so much better than anything I can get in the shops around here. Yum yum yum.
These are so gorgeous! God, why did you do this — I might have to try making my own, now. ;) We’ve been having a big debate around my blog’s parts about what constitutes a real bagel. To me, nothing but what you’ve got here is a real bagel or ever will be. Thanks for a beautiful post complete with your dad’s wonderful memories; I loved it.
I really want to make these, but could I make themv all in one day? If so, how many hours should they sit in the refrigerator for? I’m thinking that 8 hours would be enough if you put them in the fridge overnight, but do I have to wait that long?
Thanks!
I am originally from NJ and there is a bagel shop near my house called Sheepshead Bagels. I have been eating them since the shop opened about 10 years ago and they are out of this world delicious, chewy on the outside and soft in the middle, totally unlike bagels any other place.
About a year ago, I relocated to a place that does not even have bagels that are as good as the non-Sheepshead bagels in NJ. The ramifications of this move didn’t sink in until I was here about a month and the craving for a bagel hit. I proceeded to scour the internet for a recipe and came up with this one (also this is what started me on reading your fabulous fabulous blog!)… I decided to give it a go (I was dying for a bagel at this point) and I could not believe the results. I had found a recipe that makes a bagel just like Sheepshead Bagels! Thank you thank you thank! Now I can move anywhere in the world that has high gluten flour and still have my morning bagel and coffee!
I just made these today and they turned out wonderfully, despite the fact that I added the entire amount of flour to the sponge right off the bat. I ended up not being able to incorporate all of the flour–probably left at least 1/2 cup out because of my not reading the instructions thoroughly. Even so, they were a pleasure to make and a great way to pass the time over a blizzardy weekend. Thanks for this and all of your other fantastic recipes!
With 2 kids under 3 it is hard to make it all the way to New York City (from the ‘burbs of Boston) to eat fresh H and H bagels. So, instead, I made them with the kids this weekend and they were such a hit. It was definitely worth seeking out the ingredients, though everything was available at Whole Foods. Although they weren’t quite as crunchy on the outside as we love (I think I need to bake them a bit longer or try the pizza stone), the taste was fabulous. Thanks for such a well-written and delicious recipe.
I just made these. I love to work with dough, so found it all very easy. Flavor was good. A few came out gummy/soggy not sure what happened (Perhaps boilded to long or added to much gluten to the flour, since i didn’t have bread flour). My kids loved the ones I kneaded dried blueberries into to.
I have made this recipe several times using King Arthur Bread flour with excellent results (I also tried a commercially available High-gluten flour from King Arthur, but it wasn’t as good, go figure).
I have also tried to hurry up this recipe to make it in one day–with not so good results. The retarding step is crucial for flavor! If you want to try to do it in one day, you might want to make your sponge with COLD water. A longer, slower ferment has yielded excellent results for me with other breads.
I too have gotten soggy bagels with this recipe, but it was because my refrigerator wasn’t cooling properly: if yours are soggy they may have over-risen (they’re structure could have been compromised prior to hitting the boiling water), or the gluten wasn’t properly developed–if they don’t form a tight “skin” when forming the bagel there will be ways for water to get in.
Btw, I have tried no less than 10 different bagel recipes and this one is the best by far.
I made bagels twice last week–different recipe though. I used all-purpose flour in those, but I’ll whip out the bread flour next time. There was no waiting time involved, though, with the fridge.
My husband said they needed to be a bit chewier; I’ll have to experiment with the boiling time.
And barley syrup! That’s a new one for me. I never shop at Whole Foods (gasp! Seriously?!?); I buy those big bags of 25 lbs of restauarant bread flour from Sam’s Club (it’s a good thing because I used half a bag making bread one day last week–all day! There’s only half a loaf on French bread left now. . .)
And here, another bagel recipe, just tempting me to try it. The book looks good; it will probably make its way to my kitchen cookbook spot one day, but not yet.
Incidentally, I used chopped dried onions too. They were awesome–the perfect size. I soaked them in water for a couple of minutes before using them. I did an egg wash right after boiling and my toppings stuck well too.
I’m seriously tempted to try cranberries next time. Probably next week. Maybe with this recipe (okay, only half, because I like everything bagels too, but not everything plus cranberries. Yuck!)
Made these this weekend and OH MY GOSH they are good! Even though I used plain bread flour and had no malt syrup, they still turned out wonderful. I will be making our bagels myself from now on- thank you!
ahh…a word fitly spoken is like apples of silver in settings of gold. or something like that.
nice post. :-)
I want I want I want I want I want….mmmmmmmmmmmmm. My stomach is growling. I think I may just try this.
I made these and they were absolutely amazing. I’ve missed New York bagels after moving back to India, but not anymore! :) Beautiful pictures.
I’ve never had a real bagel — I’m in Toronto so growing up I’ve only ever eaten the ones sold in donut shops or found frozen in the grocery store. Now, there are several places to buy fresh bagels, but friends who’ve visited or lived in Montreal or New York feel immense pity for me. They describe in detail what a real bagel tastes like.
Well, now you have given me the tools to find out for myself!
Or, I could buy a plane ticket to New York City. I mean, really, it’s not that far. I want to be one of those people who miss New York bagels.
Now excuse me while I order high gluten flour and warm up the Kitchen Aid.
A freshly made bagel in the hand is worth far more that the sum of the time to make them. My daughter bakes mini versions of these for famiily gatherings much to everyone’s delight! And we get the yummy leftovers.
I can’t wait to try this recipe but I just wanted to comment to say that my favorite thing in the whole post were the following words:
“The crazy, it keeps coming.”
I think you just summarized my artistic temperment, and therefore my life, in one sentence. BRAVO!
The flavor was great but mine came out a bit flat? Any tips or suggestions about where I may have gone wrong?
I just made these and they were wonderful. Big, chewy, and delicious. I used 1c. white whole wheat and buckwheat honey instead of the malt. The ten minute bake time is way too short! Mine baked for 17 and after cutting into 5, one of them was still a little raw/gooey in the center but still fine to eat once toasted. I also like to do an egg wash on my bagels, which I forgot to do, it adds such a nice shine and color.
Torrie: I have read that over proofing the bagels can cause them to fall flat once put in the oven, also true for other breads. Keep in mind the temp. of your kitchen and set a timer for each rest/rise.
I’ve started making the sponge, but it looks nothing like in the picture and the consistency isn’t that liquid. It immediately turned into a rubbery ball of dough. I covered it up though, to see if that would change things? I don’t see this getting bubbly or foamy in the next two hours. I am at a higher elevation(5500 ft), so I wonder if that has anything to do with it?? I’m dying for a decent bagel, but if I can’t even make the sponge, I am in trouble here! Help!
I’m a newcomer to your blog and found the bagels almost immediately. To all those who yearn for NY bagels, be assured they aren’t what they used to be when I was young (and I’m 87). My husband and I moved to North Carolina about 18 years ago and good bagels are non-existant. Last Wednesday I received a gift from a friend in CA who bakes all her own bread and Reinhart’s bagels – one taste of them and my husband and I were taken back 50 years when bagels were bagels in NYC. Evie sent two dozen and we are rationing ourselves (with difficulty).
To BECKY who posted on May 10th, my friend lives at 8500 feet elevation but she has never had any problems. She said that it sometimes takes longer to get to the point where it is usable, until it rises it might take 3-4 hours. So give it another try – they are really worth it.
I made these over the weekend and they are BRILLIANT!
Here in England, I couldn’t get a hold of malt syrup (so I went with the sugar option) nor high-gluten flour (so I used Organic Strong White Flour) without spending a fortune ordering them (i.e. shipping them from the States!). I’d be really interested to try the suggested ingredients, but these didn’t seem to suffer too much. I tried both of the rolling methods and am still undecided on which I like both. The ‘pokey’ method gave me a much bigger whole, and generally ‘bigger’ bagels, but they both cooked just fine and I kind of like the funkiness of the rollie ones.
I cooked these in two batches over two days, and the taste is fine. The only problem was that i didn’t put enough cornflour on the tray the next day, so I had to peel the bagels away, taking the ‘crust’ off! Oh dear. Never mind!
I will definately definately be making these again. Thanks so much for your helpful notes and wonderful post.
Great description of BBA bagels! Yours look absolutely wonderful and the description of the crispy crust and chewy insides is exactly what I would expect a bagel to be! I too tried his bagels but my results were, er, less happy than yours. Check it out if you’re interested: http://strangerkiss.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/the-great-bagel-disaster-of-09/
Love your blog. Great articles and pictures. FYI: I nominated your site over at the Bitten blog. They’re looking for the best new cooking-related blogs.
These are wonderful! I made them last weekend. I couldn’t find malt syrup or high-gluten flour (the bagel-making was a spur-of-the-moment decision), but I did come across some gluten supplement. The instructions on the box are to add 1tsp per cup of AP flour for bread making… I added 1tsp per cup of bread flour for bagel making, and I think it really improved the texture.
Also, I split the difference of your size suggestions and went with 3oz bagels – they still feel like full-size rather than mini, but aren’t enormous. I got 18 bagels. The egg wash is definitely good advice, too.
Thanks for the recipe! I love your blog.
I’m making these right now! Thanks for the recipe!
On a technical note, do you find that the more you knead the dough, the stickier it gets? I add a spoonful of flour, happily knead away for another 3 minutes, and it starts to get sticky again. Add more flour. Knead until a little sticky. Add more flour. I assume the dough can’t be sticky *forever*… I just stopped after about 15 minutes of kneading. Did anyone else notice this?
Love your blog. Your pictures are fantastic. I honestly don’t know how you bake/cook and photograph at the same time. I will take pictures of mine after it’s all done, if they’re worth photographing. :)
I usually find that it gets less sticky. One tip (and I realize now that this post does not link to my Bread Tips post, but it should!) that works great for me is that when I get into one of those frustrating bread phases where I am adding flour and adding flour and the dough still feels too sticky to work with, to step aside and let it rest (with a piece of plastic wrap or an upturned bowl over it) for five minutes. When you come back, the dough has often magically absorbed that added flour and the glutens have relaxed a bit, making the dough a lot less sticky. It can save you from adding too much flour, which in the end will just make the bread tougher. I hope that helps, at least for next time. Share your pictures when they’re ready!
Thanks for the tip!
The bagels turned out great. I documented my liberties with the recipe (and there are many)… and I managed to take ONE picture. Check it out, if you like: http://supacharlie.blogspot.com/2009/07/bagels.html
OMG! – made these this morning…..these are bagels!
Okay, I think I’m in trouble as I just mixed this dough in my Kitchenaid and after about 5 minutes the dough hook just stopped mixing! I hear the motor running, but no action. I’ll check it out again tomorrow after the machine cools down and with luck I won’t have to tell my wife!!
Anyways, the process for these seems pretty straight forward. I found the malt syrup at the local health food store, though it’s a bit expensive at $6.99 for a fairly small jar. Unlike other bagel recipes I’ve tried, this dough feels good; silky and smooth. I’ve hidden the 3 trays in our spare refrigerator out in the garage and can’t wait to boil and bake tomorrow. I’m currently unemployed so to fill my time I bake and then pass it out to family and friends. My favorites are mandel bread, chocolate rugelach, challah, and now bagels! My friends don’t won’t me to find a job, but my wife thinks differently!
Baked off the bagels this morning. I made 22 – 3 ounces each, boiled with the baking soda and malt syrup. I made some plain, some with fresh onion mixed with oil, and then some with some type of dried garlic topping we had in the spice cabinet. I don’t suggest the fresh onion as they are a bit oily and take a few minutes longer to bake, but the others look great! I tried a plain bagel, though I would have preferred a garlic one which I’ll save for my tasters. The bagel was quite chewy, crispy on the outside, but a bit tough in the middle. The next time I try these I’ll be making them a bit fatter. i know that these will be great toasted! I’ll be making my deliveries soon. TTFN
I skipped the malt/barley options, used honey as my sweetener, and just ate a sample of my first batch of bagels. Holy smokes, these are scrumptious! Perfectly golden and chewy. Won’t be heading to the bagel shop for a while! :)
I just made these. Lordy, are they good. The baking time was really unprecise, but I just kept a close eye on them. I made a half batch and made it into 8 bagels, and they’re a really large; I should have made 10 or 12. They just seemed a lot smaller when they were just in ball form…
I didn’t have barley malt syrup and used agave nectar instead in both the dough and the boiling water, and I think it worked really nicely. They got a little bit of that bagel-shop taste you mentioned, which was great. Whether it was as good as with the syrup I can’t say, but I definitely like it with the agave. I already ate one of these slathered with butter tonight and it’s taking all my willpower not to eat another one. I’m looking forward to my colby jack, hummus, and cucumber sandwich on one at work tomorrow. If only I had some avocado too.
The whole process of making these was terrifying and I kept having to turn to my better half to reassure me that everything was going to be FINE regardless of the outcome. I was nervous all last night and all this morning until five minutes ago when the baking was done and I chomped down on my first sesame seed bagel slathered in butter. Ahh. They’re really bagels! Thank you so much for this recipe, and WELCOME to your son!
Oh man, I was just thinking about my BBA bagels. I had the last three(!) in one sitting last week, after finding them inside the bottom drawer of the freezer next to all the hops and yeasts. Love the story from SantaDad
I started these last night leaving the sponge in the fridge overnight and making the dough in the morning to retard throughout the day. I used malt powder and high gluten flour but did not add in the last 3/4 cup of flour because my dough was already formed and quite stiff (it actually broke the welded handles off my KitchenAid bowl at the lowest speed). I boiled one minute on each side and feel the crust has the right “chew” but would like the interior to be more dense (perhaps the bit of flour I left out would have helped) and have just a little more salt (I did not use any toppings…maybe rock salt would be perfect). Regardless, it was a fun process and a good recipe.
Hi! I really want to make these, but I was wondering if it’s possible to substitute whole wheat flour for the bread flour?
After successfully making these a couple weeks ago, I chose them as worthy of Christmas morning breakfast, and made them today for my parents and his brother and girlfriend. They’re delicious, even without the barley syrup.
I, like many others, find that the least successful part of the bagels is the way they look. Deb, I’m convinced that you’re some sort of superhero for being able to generate such beautiful bagels. How in the world can you get them from parchment to pot without making them horribly misshapen? They’re so delicate when they rise that for me, any attempt to handle them results in seriously bruising their structure. I try to lift them off the sheet with my hands. I try to nudge them onto a spatula. I try to invert the pan over the pot and plop them in. None are successful!
They come out delicious, just flatter and bumpier than the incredibly perfect bagels pictured here.
Anyone have any handling tips? It’s the final frontier between myself and never having to buy another bagel again.
My 23 year old cousin recently had a bone marrow transplant in treatment for Leukemia that was diagnosed this past 4th of July. Until he reaches his 100 days post treatment (February 24th), he cannot eat foods prepared outside of the home. He’s been craving bagels now that he has his appetite back, but bakeries are off limits. Living in North Jersey, grocery store bread aisle bagels just don’t cut it. Hopefully, the dozen I made him for Christmas will suffice until the end of February! Thanks for giving me the confidence needed to pull this one off!
I’ve wanted to make these ever since you posted this recipe. this week, my daughter Dorothy (4) started asking about making bagels. I knew immediately where I would find the recipe (right here)
they are the project for this upcoming long weekend.
can’t wait
must buy cream cheese!!!
The bagels were amazing. The kids could not stop eating them, and we will definitely be making these again
my kitchen aid had some trouble with kneading the dough. Next time I might only make a half recipe. Or knead it in 2 batches
When I began baking breads way back in 1973 — because I was tired of supermarket mush — one of my goals was to be able to make bagels. I conquered croissants with no problem. French breads. Easy. (sold them for nearly 20 years). Bagels, however, were never good. Until yesterday and today. I made your recipe. I saw it Monday night. I mixed it on Tuesday. This morning we had bagels for breakfast (and lunch). Thanks to you, I feel as if I have finally achieved another goal in my breadbaking life. Now if I could just find a good recipe for a New York Rye bread……….
Tried the recipe, but didn’t have malt anything available except beer! Used that. Followed the recipe and process other than that……….Should add I have a crap oven that will not reach and maintain a high temp. Let them rest overnight after proofing. My only complaint is that they spread out more than I would have liked. But living in NC where they have no clue what bagels are they were GREAT!!! May never buy a bagel again!
Just made these and they are SO GOOD. Thanks so much for all the detailed notes.