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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2008/11/pie-crust-102-all-butter-really-flaky-pie-dough/#comment-332390</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secret to rolling pie crusts.

Zip lock bags. Largest you can find. 1.5 to 2 gal works best. 

I use 1 gal bags but it is easier with larger. roll it in the bag leaving one corner of the zip lock  open to let the air out while rolling. 

Freeze the bag with the rolled dough. once frozen cut the bag open on 3 sides peel one side of the plastic bag off let the dough warm up a little so it is just a bit pliable without cracking placed dough side down onto a cold pie pan. slowly press the plastic bag side of the crust into the pan. once the dough forms to the shape of the pan. put it back into the freezer. once cold the plastic bag will just peel off. let crust become pliable to make your crimps in the edge on the pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secret to rolling pie crusts.</p>
<p>Zip lock bags. Largest you can find. 1.5 to 2 gal works best. </p>
<p>I use 1 gal bags but it is easier with larger. roll it in the bag leaving one corner of the zip lock  open to let the air out while rolling. </p>
<p>Freeze the bag with the rolled dough. once frozen cut the bag open on 3 sides peel one side of the plastic bag off let the dough warm up a little so it is just a bit pliable without cracking placed dough side down onto a cold pie pan. slowly press the plastic bag side of the crust into the pan. once the dough forms to the shape of the pan. put it back into the freezer. once cold the plastic bag will just peel off. let crust become pliable to make your crimps in the edge on the pan.</p>
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		<title>By: judy jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>judy jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great recipe- have you ever tried grating the butter? If you freeze it and grate it, it cuts in FAST and stays cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great recipe- have you ever tried grating the butter? If you freeze it and grate it, it cuts in FAST and stays cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been baking for more than 50 years and found that the best way to roll out pie dough is between two sheets of waxed paper.  Here&#039;s my method:

When ready to use, take smaller ball out and roll between sheets of waxed paper into an 11” circle to fit a 9” pie pan.  Loosen top sheet, flip over and loosen bottom sheet, then remove bottom sheet.  Holding your hands over dough, flip over so that dough is now on the bottom of the waxed paper, supported by your hands.  Position over the pie pan and gently guide into place.  Press lightly to bottom edges to fit into pan. Trim edges, leaving a ½” overhang of dough.  Fill with your choice of filling.  

Roll out second ball of dough in same manner, making a slightly bigger round (approximately 13”) and place over filling as described above.  Trim edges to ½”; roll and press top and bottom edges of dough together.  Crimp as desired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been baking for more than 50 years and found that the best way to roll out pie dough is between two sheets of waxed paper.  Here&#8217;s my method:</p>
<p>When ready to use, take smaller ball out and roll between sheets of waxed paper into an 11” circle to fit a 9” pie pan.  Loosen top sheet, flip over and loosen bottom sheet, then remove bottom sheet.  Holding your hands over dough, flip over so that dough is now on the bottom of the waxed paper, supported by your hands.  Position over the pie pan and gently guide into place.  Press lightly to bottom edges to fit into pan. Trim edges, leaving a ½” overhang of dough.  Fill with your choice of filling.  </p>
<p>Roll out second ball of dough in same manner, making a slightly bigger round (approximately 13”) and place over filling as described above.  Trim edges to ½”; roll and press top and bottom edges of dough together.  Crimp as desired.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made the recipe for the first time last week for pumpkin pie and like Cat, the bottom seemed tough to cut through. I figured I didn&#039;t cut the butter in well enough because I had some major chunks going on or that I didn&#039;t roll it thin enough..This is my first time with all butter...
It did taste VERY delicious though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made the recipe for the first time last week for pumpkin pie and like Cat, the bottom seemed tough to cut through. I figured I didn&#8217;t cut the butter in well enough because I had some major chunks going on or that I didn&#8217;t roll it thin enough..This is my first time with all butter&#8230;<br />
It did taste VERY delicious though!</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made this recipe for the first time last night, and even followed your pie crust 103 to make sure I rolled it out properly. I made this for a pumpkin pie, and the crust turned out very tasty and flaky, but the bottom layers turned out quite tough and almost...*stale* in consistency. Could this be due to more heat coming from the bottom of my oven and over-heating the bottom of the glass pan? Does this happen if the dough is rolled out too thick? Were my butter chunks too big?

I will certainly try this recipe again, because I try to avoid eating unhealthy fats such as hydrogenated oils, which is precisely what Crisco is--pure trans fats! Sure, eating pies all the time can&#039;t be too healthy either, but I am glad to rid my diet of such a harmful substance that increases my risk of cancer, heart disease, infertility, and alzheimer&#039;s disease!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made this recipe for the first time last night, and even followed your pie crust 103 to make sure I rolled it out properly. I made this for a pumpkin pie, and the crust turned out very tasty and flaky, but the bottom layers turned out quite tough and almost&#8230;*stale* in consistency. Could this be due to more heat coming from the bottom of my oven and over-heating the bottom of the glass pan? Does this happen if the dough is rolled out too thick? Were my butter chunks too big?</p>
<p>I will certainly try this recipe again, because I try to avoid eating unhealthy fats such as hydrogenated oils, which is precisely what Crisco is&#8211;pure trans fats! Sure, eating pies all the time can&#8217;t be too healthy either, but I am glad to rid my diet of such a harmful substance that increases my risk of cancer, heart disease, infertility, and alzheimer&#8217;s disease!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of thoughts...

With regard to CI&#039;s vodka recipe, I agree with your assessment.  I also didn&#039;t like that my crusts didn&#039;t seem to brown as well as normal.  But don&#039;t throw the baby out with the bathwater.  I have found that I reduce the percentage of vodka by half then use a &quot;normal&quot; amount of liquid.  I can use enough liquid to make the dough easy to handle without so much concern about developing the gluten.  

With regard to butter, again, I agree whole-heartedly.  I suggest that you try a cultured butter.  I buy Organic Valley unsalted cultured butter.  It&#039;s priced about 25% more that other high quality butters, but the moisture content is much lower and  it melts at a higher temperature.  I can keep a stick of this at room temperature on a summer day and feel definite resistance from a butter knife.  With conventional butter, it gets so soft that I can hardly keep it on the end of a knife.  This is a great feature for pastry-making and will help ensure a flaky crust.  I believe that Lurpack (Danish) and Kerrygold (Irish) are also cultured butters and are increasingly easy to find in regular grocery stores.  All of them are great butters.

Jane - About the potato masher, if it&#039;s one of those wire zig-zag models, it would probably work.  If it&#039;s one with the metal plate with holes in it, I don&#039;t think it would work very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of thoughts&#8230;</p>
<p>With regard to CI&#8217;s vodka recipe, I agree with your assessment.  I also didn&#8217;t like that my crusts didn&#8217;t seem to brown as well as normal.  But don&#8217;t throw the baby out with the bathwater.  I have found that I reduce the percentage of vodka by half then use a &#8220;normal&#8221; amount of liquid.  I can use enough liquid to make the dough easy to handle without so much concern about developing the gluten.  </p>
<p>With regard to butter, again, I agree whole-heartedly.  I suggest that you try a cultured butter.  I buy Organic Valley unsalted cultured butter.  It&#8217;s priced about 25% more that other high quality butters, but the moisture content is much lower and  it melts at a higher temperature.  I can keep a stick of this at room temperature on a summer day and feel definite resistance from a butter knife.  With conventional butter, it gets so soft that I can hardly keep it on the end of a knife.  This is a great feature for pastry-making and will help ensure a flaky crust.  I believe that Lurpack (Danish) and Kerrygold (Irish) are also cultured butters and are increasingly easy to find in regular grocery stores.  All of them are great butters.</p>
<p>Jane &#8211; About the potato masher, if it&#8217;s one of those wire zig-zag models, it would probably work.  If it&#8217;s one with the metal plate with holes in it, I don&#8217;t think it would work very well.</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane -- It might just work. Do let us know how it goes if you try it; I&#039;d love to update this post at some point with all of the other ways people are getting similar results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane &#8212; It might just work. Do let us know how it goes if you try it; I&#8217;d love to update this post at some point with all of the other ways people are getting similar results.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the various Pie Crust tutorials! I have a question for anyone who could offer some help. Being a poor graduate student in a tiny apartment, I&#039;ve been trying to keep my kitchen gadgets to an absolute minimum. I&#039;m curious: could I use my potato masher as some kind of MacGuyver-like substitute for a pastry cutter? Is this total madness? I&#039;d love to hear anyone&#039;s opinion on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the various Pie Crust tutorials! I have a question for anyone who could offer some help. Being a poor graduate student in a tiny apartment, I&#8217;ve been trying to keep my kitchen gadgets to an absolute minimum. I&#8217;m curious: could I use my potato masher as some kind of MacGuyver-like substitute for a pastry cutter? Is this total madness? I&#8217;d love to hear anyone&#8217;s opinion on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your blog! I&#039;ve been cooking &amp; baking off of it for the last few weeks - much to my boyfriend&#039;s delight. I just made my first homemade pie crust last night (following your tutorial), and although I only used 1 cup water, I think it was too much. It turned out VERY sticky and gummy. Looked more like pizza dough. Not sure what I did wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your blog! I&#8217;ve been cooking &amp; baking off of it for the last few weeks &#8211; much to my boyfriend&#8217;s delight. I just made my first homemade pie crust last night (following your tutorial), and although I only used 1 cup water, I think it was too much. It turned out VERY sticky and gummy. Looked more like pizza dough. Not sure what I did wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you can. In fact, in the peach pie recipe I suggest that you use a half-recipe of this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you can. In fact, in the peach pie recipe I suggest that you use a half-recipe of this!</p>
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