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		<title>By: olga</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2007/10/over-the-top-irksome-quiche/#comment-310991</link>
		<dc:creator>olga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear!

Sorry to post so late but I am new in blog reading, I couldn´t stop laughing because I was also very impressed by this over the top quiche recipe when I saw it on food&amp;wine, the first time I tried it was also a disaster leaking included, not fun indeed.  But I have got better I have to say, I brush my pastry shell with an egg wash the last 20 minutes of baking, then I make sure there are no cracks o holes, it also helps to pour the filling when the crust is still hot so the custard starts setting before it leaks.</description>
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<p>Sorry to post so late but I am new in blog reading, I couldn´t stop laughing because I was also very impressed by this over the top quiche recipe when I saw it on food&amp;wine, the first time I tried it was also a disaster leaking included, not fun indeed.  But I have got better I have to say, I brush my pastry shell with an egg wash the last 20 minutes of baking, then I make sure there are no cracks o holes, it also helps to pour the filling when the crust is still hot so the custard starts setting before it leaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2007/10/over-the-top-irksome-quiche/#comment-198787</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found this older post via the pumpkin bread pudding recipe in the thanksgiving index (so loving the cataloging!) and i had to write that I HATE THIS QUICHE RECIPE MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF. i never got past my THIRD attempt at the STUPID dough wrapped around the unhinged springform. let&#039;s brush canola oil all over a nonstick springform and dare the all-butter crust not to slither down the sides in collapse. time well spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found this older post via the pumpkin bread pudding recipe in the thanksgiving index (so loving the cataloging!) and i had to write that I HATE THIS QUICHE RECIPE MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF. i never got past my THIRD attempt at the STUPID dough wrapped around the unhinged springform. let&#8217;s brush canola oil all over a nonstick springform and dare the all-butter crust not to slither down the sides in collapse. time well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2007/10/over-the-top-irksome-quiche/#comment-106765</link>
		<dc:creator>David Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First,  I am biased. 
I can commiserate on your problems with the crust; I think Anja&#039;s idea of putting the pastry-lined springform in the fridge for 20 to 60 minutes is good and, having read the book an hour ago I see that it is in there. You absolutely must keep all the pastry components and treatment as cold as possible - a point he alludes to.

Using a springform? I wonder if that is necessary. He emphasises that he wants the 2&quot; depth which ordinary flan cases don&#039;t give you but I would think any bottomless cake tin would do (you are going to grease it and he tells you to run a knife around before removing the quiche).

My main concern with the pastry recipe relates to the water; IMHO you simply cannot say &quot;add 1/4 cup iced water&quot;.  Different flours absorb different amounts of water and you have to add until the dough is &quot;right&quot; which he explains (and that is experience). Therefore I suspect that your uncooked pastry may have been too wet. I&#039;ve done the same thing! (You need to learn your flour and I order mine - 15% rye - from the mill itself in Doug&#039;s &quot;land of the quiche&quot;) 
Also I am concerned about Keller&#039;ss cooking times -  I  prebake for 7 minutes, remove the beans and then give 2 to 3 more minutes. Yes - I use a shell thinner than Keller&#039;s 1/4 inch and prick it extensively but the difference  between my 10 and his 50 - 65 minutes is large. 
Eyeball it and good luck next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First,  I am biased.<br />
I can commiserate on your problems with the crust; I think Anja&#8217;s idea of putting the pastry-lined springform in the fridge for 20 to 60 minutes is good and, having read the book an hour ago I see that it is in there. You absolutely must keep all the pastry components and treatment as cold as possible &#8211; a point he alludes to.</p>
<p>Using a springform? I wonder if that is necessary. He emphasises that he wants the 2&#8243; depth which ordinary flan cases don&#8217;t give you but I would think any bottomless cake tin would do (you are going to grease it and he tells you to run a knife around before removing the quiche).</p>
<p>My main concern with the pastry recipe relates to the water; IMHO you simply cannot say &#8220;add 1/4 cup iced water&#8221;.  Different flours absorb different amounts of water and you have to add until the dough is &#8220;right&#8221; which he explains (and that is experience). Therefore I suspect that your uncooked pastry may have been too wet. I&#8217;ve done the same thing! (You need to learn your flour and I order mine &#8211; 15% rye &#8211; from the mill itself in Doug&#8217;s &#8220;land of the quiche&#8221;)<br />
Also I am concerned about Keller&#8217;ss cooking times &#8211;  I  prebake for 7 minutes, remove the beans and then give 2 to 3 more minutes. Yes &#8211; I use a shell thinner than Keller&#8217;s 1/4 inch and prick it extensively but the difference  between my 10 and his 50 &#8211; 65 minutes is large.<br />
Eyeball it and good luck next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2007/10/over-the-top-irksome-quiche/#comment-105535</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made this quiche many times...no problems...and gets easier each time. Make sure after you place the pie pastry in the ring mold, stick it in the freezer for @ 30 minutes. I now finesse this crust with no breaks, cracks or otherwise. The Leek/Roquefort quiche is the least time consuming and very good. Without doubt the best quiche I&#039;ve ever eaten. Really, most quiche that is served to us is overcooked frittata. The silky, custard filling of TK&#039;s can&#039;t be beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made this quiche many times&#8230;no problems&#8230;and gets easier each time. Make sure after you place the pie pastry in the ring mold, stick it in the freezer for @ 30 minutes. I now finesse this crust with no breaks, cracks or otherwise. The Leek/Roquefort quiche is the least time consuming and very good. Without doubt the best quiche I&#8217;ve ever eaten. Really, most quiche that is served to us is overcooked frittata. The silky, custard filling of TK&#8217;s can&#8217;t be beat.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the dissapointing recipie vein:  I just made some spice cupcakes with cream cheese frosting. Sounds nice and autumnal, no? They taste like BACON. I&#039;ve got no idea how this happened. Its completely distressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the dissapointing recipie vein:  I just made some spice cupcakes with cream cheese frosting. Sounds nice and autumnal, no? They taste like BACON. I&#8217;ve got no idea how this happened. Its completely distressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may have been a disappointment to taste, but it really does look yummy!  I&#039;ll take your word for it though. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may have been a disappointment to taste, but it really does look yummy!  I&#8217;ll take your word for it though. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2007/10/over-the-top-irksome-quiche/#comment-85076</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sweetie!  I have made this (and other Keller quiches) more than once.  The secret is to ensure that the crust is pre-baked and that before it is baked, you plug any potential holes with extra pastry.  It sounds like a challenge but the result is well worth it.  I even had a 74 year old friend eat it - until he discovered it was quiche!  

It is definately worth the effort, even if it does take a whole weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sweetie!  I have made this (and other Keller quiches) more than once.  The secret is to ensure that the crust is pre-baked and that before it is baked, you plug any potential holes with extra pastry.  It sounds like a challenge but the result is well worth it.  I even had a 74 year old friend eat it &#8211; until he discovered it was quiche!  </p>
<p>It is definately worth the effort, even if it does take a whole weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://smittenkitchen.com/2007/10/over-the-top-irksome-quiche/#comment-84925</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmm this quiche looks wonderful!Can you spare a slice?</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That quich looks amazing ! I am a big fan of mushrooms so this seems really tempting!

www.chocolateshavings.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That quich looks amazing ! I am a big fan of mushrooms so this seems really tempting!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keller&#039;s pastry recipe is the one I always follow now when making quiche, but I too had a hard time with it, mainly dealing with the shrinkage. Here in the land of quiche (Paris, France) I thought, heck, I have the right pan, the right flour, the right everything, so what could go wrong? Five quiches later I still haven&#039;t figured it out totally, but I&#039;m comfortable. So Deb, I feel your pain. Hang in there, we all love you still!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keller&#8217;s pastry recipe is the one I always follow now when making quiche, but I too had a hard time with it, mainly dealing with the shrinkage. Here in the land of quiche (Paris, France) I thought, heck, I have the right pan, the right flour, the right everything, so what could go wrong? Five quiches later I still haven&#8217;t figured it out totally, but I&#8217;m comfortable. So Deb, I feel your pain. Hang in there, we all love you still!</p>
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